Turkey Bans Blogger

UPDATE!! — It is now known why Blogger is banned in Turkey. Click here for the new article.

Since today, whoever tries to access Blogger or any *.blogspot.com domain from Turkey will get the following message on my screen:

Blogger's banned in Turkey screenshot

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This is the same message we get if we try to visit YouTube, which is also banned in Turkey. In the past blogging platform WordPress.com has been banned as well (read more), to much dismay of many Turkish bloggers.

It was suspected that the reason for this has something to do with Adnan Oktar, by some considered the leading Muslim advocate for creationism, who has in the past managed to get WordPress, Google Groups, as well as Richard Dawkins’ website banned. It was then suggested however, that Oktar was active in Istanbul courts and this verdict was passed in Diyarbakır in South East Turkey.

UPDATE – It is now known that it was Digiturk, not Adnan Oktar, that caused the ban. Read the new article here: 
http://www.basbasbas.com/blog/2008/10/26/digiturk-causes-turkish-ban-of-bloggerblogspot/

Turkey’s EU ambitions seem paradoxical to the infringement on the freedom of press and speech of its citizens, residents and visitors by banning sites like this. This is not China. This has to stopped. Good thing the EU’s making a blacklist of censoring countries and are creating software for people in censoring countries to use to overcome the censorship (Global Online Freedom Act).

The court order of the ban on Blogger is also in very stark contrast to yesterday’s court approval of gay and group sex. Turkey’s a country of opposites.

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54 Responses to “Turkey Bans Blogger”

  1. Chris Says:

    Wow, that really sucks. This is was one of my fears about Mainland China and what I ultimately ended in Taiwan. Taiwan is free, China is not.

    There are, of course, ways to get around the blocks, but that’s beside the point. Being in a country where freedom of speech is restricted in such an obvious way is…trembling.

  2. Bas Says:

    Well, maybe the court order will get overturned. I’m still waiting for more details as the Turkish media appears to be picking this story up rather slowly.

  3. Rémon Says:

    As daniele would say: FUCK!!!!

    I’ve a blogspot . But I found a way to get there! Just go to unblockyoutube.org and fill in the blogspot website instead of youtube.com .

    I really love the people who made that unblocking website! They’re my only hope ;)

  4. Bas Says:

    Yup. There are many proxy sites (“unblock” sites). Though working with them is usually rather slow and definitely nothing like ‘the real deal’.

  5. Anil Says:

    Hotspot Shield or a number of proxies will certainly get you around this – however the tide is changing in Turkey and hopefully this type of censorship will become less common.

    The trend is towards that, compared to 10 years ago the media has really opened up.

    I disagree though, Turkey is no where like China in terms of the scope of censorship or Internet regulation.

  6. Funny Turkey Says:

    Beware for the new generation of Turkish hackers :) They are all now DNS, proxy professionals already. It is a planned tactics of government to push our youth to IT sector ahahahaha

    Well, they had even tried to ban imdb.com, but they couldn’t. Read why here. It is a really funny story.

    http://www.englishturkey.com/content/new-turkish-internet-scandal-imdbcom

    … and another post I have written before to protest.

    http://www.englishturkey.com/content/turk-telekom-internet-service-provider-decided-ban-internet-completely-0/

    Sorry that ! I am a Turkish guy and very ashamed for such bans of ignorant people.

    In Turkish, there is an idiom exactly suits to this situation. “Pire icin yorgan yakmak”. Its meaning is

    “To burn the quilt for a flea”

    It is the current madness.

  7. Hans Says:

    Thanks Remon.
    I am a Dutch in Turkey and have a blogspot blog.
    But managed with your recom to get in my blog.
    Not everything shows up, but I have access back.
    Kindest
    hans

  8. Barış Atasoy Says:

    I think Adnan Oktar is the scapegoat here-dont get me wrong; I’m not saying that he’s not the man behind the curtain. All I’m saying is, he is not that strong.

    Lets rewind back in time: Dawkins’ site was banned before, and it was the only blogspot site that is banned at the time. Now they banned the whole domain; because blogger is a threat to everyone. And its not just the government, or the leading party,AKP. Kurdish nationalists,Turkish nationalists,the army, the government, homoseksuals,heterosexuals;everybody hates bloggers! Nobody likes opposition here. Thats our real problem, and its more emotional than being rationalistic.

    I’m afraid EU blacklisting doesnt mean anything to most of us, since there’s growing anger towards EU and US; thanks to(!) media propaganda. AKP is running away from EU membership plans fast; they are afraid of a new coup d’etat.

    To understand what is going on, you have to know about bureaucratic elite in Turkey.

    To help “homeless bloggers”, I managed to start a campaign. At http://bloggerdostlari.pozitifpc.com, we started helping them to move their blogs. I hope that would help, at least they can keep on writing.

  9. Rémon Says:

    You’re welcome Hans…

    I’m also a Dutch one who lives(studying until January) in Istanbul!

    Groeten

  10. Hans Says:

    Dear Remon,
    I see, more and more Dutchies here in Istanbul. :lol: I am here since 2002…
    Are there any other ‘unblock sites’?
    It really helped me a lot the unblock site you recommend.
    Kindest
    hans

  11. Bas Says:

    I was told that ATunnel.com is very good.

    http://atunnel.com/

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    The following link has around 100 less-known, so faster proxies. At least 20% percent works. You should check them to find the best.

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  16. lexan Says:

    :sad:

    for freedom!

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  18. Johnny Law Says:

    Incredible in this day and age that they would ban these sites ??? What will they ban next? MySpace? Facebook? Twitter?

  19. ali Says:

    Hi, I just stumbled upon your blog. I am a Turkish student who, just like you, studies in another country, that is USA. Although there is freedom of internet here, it still hurts me to see my country adopting such silly policies, and banning my own blog.

    Moreover, an average Turk cares so little about these things. Maybe many Turks have more important stuff to do than blogging, like earning a basic income, but once you are done with such basic tasks, freedom of speech becomes important…

    I hope you didn’t get an ugly view of my country so far, although you probably did. I hope you enjoy your stay there and see the many beauties istanbul has to offer as well. peace,
    ali

  20. Bas Says:

    Haha, no way. I have a great view of your country. Just have a look around on my blog ;-)

    Thanks for stopping by and sharing your view!

  21. Peter Says:

    Thanks for bringing this up. It is a shame and a disgrace! A member state of NATO? A country pushing to become part of the EU?????

    I crossposted part of this post, linking to you. Let’s spread this news.

    This is absolutely unacceptable!

  22. Hans Says:

    Thanks for the advice all!

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  28. safak Says:

    The ban is not about Adnan Oktar or some religious subject but simply is about Digiturk which holds the right to broadcast the Turkish Football Super League.

    Digiturk claims that the bloggers illegally streams the matches (it’s right about that and you have to buy a receiver and a special card in order to view the Turkish Super League) from internet via their blogs.

    Therefore they appeal to court and court bans the whole sites ending with …blogspot.com abd blogger.com. Therefore the complete blogger has been banned.

    I admit that the court decision is totally bullshit but not everything in Turkey is not about religion, Adnan Oktar etc.

    Best regards,

  29. Peter Says:

    @Safak: do you have any link to a press article (preferably in English) to confirm what you say?

    I also wonder what the court ruling was behind banning YouTube and WordPress…

  30. safak Says:

    I’m sorry, i have it on Turkish.

    http://turk.internet.com/haber/yazigoster.php3?yaziid=22246

  31. safak Says:

    If i’m not mistaken YouTube’s reasons for bans are mostly hateful videos about Atatürk, or glorifying PKK (the kurdish terorist movement). WordPress’ ban was about Adnan Oktar.

  32. Barış Atasoy Says:

    A member state of NATO?

    Yeah,Peter,NATO. Greatest terrorist organization of all time! Founder of Gladio and supporter of many coup d’etats,undercover ops.

  33. ppl Says:

    Proxy ile Bloggera girebiliyorsunuz ama yazı yazmak gereçekten bir işkence,sitenin tasarımını degiştiremiyorsunuz yorumları onaylayamıyorsunuz.
    Ancak bu yontemle tum engelleri aşabilirsiniz.hemde hiçbir reklam yok.

    detaylar:
    http://www.yabancihosting.com/uncategorized/yasakli-sitelere-proxy-kullanmadan-girin/26/10/2008/.html

  34. Bas Says:

    Türkçe bilmiyorum :(

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  38. ghf Says:

    Hey man thanks,

    Your fake story has been picked up by Slashdot and now it has turned into Turkey bashing! I’m a Turk leaving in the netherlands doing my Phd. And everyday, I’m dealing with people who think because I’m a Turk I can only open Doner to Go place and I can only come to work in EU with illegal documents. And also these people think that I’ll be forcing my girlfriend (who is also a Dutch) to wear Turban. Now I know this a minority, so I don’t write about any of this in my blog!!!!!!!!!! In my blog, I write about how good the opportunities for Phd students.

    Every country has bad sides (Turkey as a developing country has many of them; banning of Youtube made me really sad). But picking up in these or even speculating a news to be bad and putting it forward, what is the gain? For gods sake, does not anything good happen in Turkey? Why do Europeans and EU country don’t pick those news up?

    So thanks man, really… You have done great!!! Thanksss!!

  39. Bas Says:

    Hi ghf,

    I’m sorry that you have to deal with the negative perception of Turkish people in the Netherlands. It’s a big problem and I really hate that about my country. I have Turkish friends in Holland who were born in Turkey and they hate the way they’re perceived in Holland, due to the misbehaviour of a tiny fraction of the Turkish ethnic minority born in Holland. I know there’s a lot of misperception about Turkey.

    I wasn’t speculating this news to be bad. This news is ‘bad’. Banning millions of blogs because of misbehaviour by just a few blogs is the same as some Dutch people judging all Turkish people by the misbehaviour of a few bad apples.

    If you would have taken a better look at my blog, you’ll see that I’m not picking on Turkey. I live in Istanbul and love it here. Most of my blog posts are very positive (!) and I really admire this city, country and culture. I understand your reaction, but I am not the personification of the Dutch people whose prejudice you have to endure. I am not the personification of all those speaking bad about Turkey on Slashdot. On the contrary, I went in there are tried to calm people down and to solve misunderstandings… and as soon as the exact reason came out as to why Blogger was banned, I wrote about it, edited this article and went to clear things up at Slashdot.

    I am sorry about the misunderstandings that exist about your country. I am sorry that some people don’t seem to understand Turkey is not Saudi Arabia or Iran. I am sorry that you see my post as a negative one.

    I am blogging about this, because I’m concerned about this since I’m a blogger myself. I’m blogging about this, not because I want to speak negatively about Turkey, but because I think this is an infringement on the rights of Turkish citizens and residents, because of a verdict which is based on poor logic. I’m blogging about this since it directly affects me due to the fact that I live in Turkey and have multiple blogs hosted via blogger.

    I wrote about this to get attention for this matter, because if there’s no attention for it, the government won’t feel the need to change anything. And this is something that has to change.

    I hope you understand.

  40. ghf Says:

    Hi again,

    I understand your reaction, but what gets picked up is not fact that the site is blogged. What gets picked up is some person “considered the leading Muslim advocate for creationism” forced to get that site closed! This is the speculation part I was talking about.
    Ofcourse you are right, due to copyright issues a full site should not be closed. But since your blog states: “It is suspected that the reason for this has something to do with Adnan Oktar, by some considered the leading Muslim advocate for creationism”, it immediately got picked up. And since people are so used to Turkey bashing the things got out of control.
    Believe me, when I read the news in slashdot I’ve got really sad because I keep saying turkey is not Iran and this news; what the hell?? :) But then reading it is about some copyright stuff I’ve said puh. And reading slashdoters comments about turkey, most of them focus on the part about Adnan Oktar not a complete site being banned.

    I agree the news is bad, but look at the part people are focusing. And the news has nothing to with Adnan Oktar. It is about Digiturk as you have updated. And when people read it in slashdot; they say yes I was right Turks are not secular, they have nothing to in EU and so on. So your blog have reassured to them that they were right (since the news is coming from a European leaving in Turkey it should be right). And part of this news is completely speculation. This makes me sad.

    BTW: I really don’t think all Dutch are like the ones I’ve described above. I think the ones I see are minorities. But if in my blog, facebook site, whatever way, I would say all the Dutch think like this blah blah I would be speculating. Even worse, I would be completely guessing.

    Thanks for the reply.

  41. Turkish Culture Blog Says:

    Whatever the reason, you can’t ban the sites like Google, Yahoo, WordPress, Youtube, Youporn, Blogger etc. Please know that one day they can really ban the biggest online newspapers like Hurriyet, Milliyet, Haberturk etc. and portals like Ekolay, Pilli Network etc. , because as far as I know the laws allow doing it.

    Bas didn’t make something wrong, he has written many nice things before as well even though he doesn’t have to. It is natural to write such extreme things. I have written in my blog that Semih Sayginer is a Turkish genius of billiards, but also have written that it is a national disaster to ban such sites.

    If we continue to behave like this as a county, yes, everyone will think that we are from dark ages. Spending millions of dollars for the advertisement of Turkey and Turkish tourism is in vain.

    Well, I am proud of myself that even in elementary school I had more logic and reasoning than some people by knowing that it is apparently a suicide to behave like this internationally. Enough said ! :cool:

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  47. Hans Says:

    Ghf,
    The bad perception is created by the Turkish governments, its institutions, its poor handling of all kind of crisisis etc.
    We are talking about Coup’s, torture, corruption, mismanagement, severe violating of human rights, women rights, children rights, animal rights, international laws. I’ve written around 15 columns about this in TDN and Turkish weekly, and the only reactions I got were positive ones since I put it in a context.
    Next to that, this is not only about the Blogger ban but 1152 other sites as well, which put Turkey on ONE line with S A and Iran…
    Sorry, these are the facts.
    Greetings from a Dutch in Istanbul
    hans

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  54. Julie Robert Says:

    I thing its all about Turkish government who did this. I don’t know why why its come in rule of law to beaned. hope to get back.


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